Record Live Podcast

The songs that inspire us
[00:00:00] Hi there, everyone. I'm Jared. And I'm Zenita. We are your hosts of Record Live, a podcast where we talk about church, faith, and living well. We believe as followers of Jesus, faith is more than just a set of beliefs. It's a way of life, something we put into practice. Let's go live.
Zanita Fletcher: Hello everyone and welcome to another week of Record Live. Jarrod, how are we going?
Jarrod Stackelroth: We're doing great, Zanita. Winding down to the end of the year. We're doing a big cleanup at the office in Sydney today. So, yeah, things are going well.
Zanita Fletcher: Awesome. Well, we are having a fun conversation today. We are talking about, , music and workshop music and what that means to us.
Zanita Fletcher: What are some of the songs that we really enjoy? , and this is something that is in the bible quite a lot. Like there's a lot of [00:01:00] passages where people will be shaking their Not maracas. They call them something specific
Jarrod Stackelroth: tambourines
Zanita Fletcher: Tambourines, that's the one i'm looking for. They're shaking the tambourines worshiping god.
Zanita Fletcher: They're singing. We see it a lot in the psalms, obviously , and so it's just an interesting thing. I think it's a real gift that god has given us because it's something quite You know, it's not like prayer. It's not like reading the Bible. It's a bit more like fun and feelings based. So I guess to start off, what, what is like your relationship with music?
Zanita Fletcher: Do you like sing a lot? Are you a musical person? Like what is worship music to you?
Jarrod Stackelroth: Oh, prying out all my secrets, Zanida. , growing up, growing up, I sang at church quite a lot. We had. I would say I come from a musical family. My, my grandmother was a music teacher. My mother is a music teacher. All my aunties and uncles on that side, when I was growing up, played instruments, learned different instruments.
Jarrod Stackelroth: And,, so sometimes when we would get together for [00:02:00] say Christmas, there would be, Basically, there'd be a piano, a saxophone, a mouth organ, a trumpet, a flute, all sorts of different things. Some guitars, , it was always,, interesting in that sense. So yeah, growing up, really did like music.
Jarrod Stackelroth: I had some interesting experiences like when the primary school choir, That I joined from quite a young age. Cause my mom was very involved with it. I really enjoyed, but by year seven, I was the only boy left. It became uncool. And so the boys dropped out and , it was hard to be in there by myself, but it was also fun because I loved music and I wanted to be, I wanted to be there.
Jarrod Stackelroth: I just, it was hard to be. Sort of a loner doing your own thing, forging your own path. But at the same time, , I don't regret it. , you know, you've got to stand up for what you enjoy, stand up for what you believe in. So yeah, music's always been around. It's always been part of my life. Unfortunately, I joke with people sometimes that I've [00:03:00] probably quit more instruments than they've started learning.
Jarrod Stackelroth: So, , I just had a problem with application and practice. ,So yeah, that was myself. How about you Zanina, what's your relationship with music like?
Zanita Fletcher: Yeah, I also come from quite a musical family, and also have tried many instruments. I think it's probably, I think like singing in church is a cool thing.
Zanita Fletcher: Cause it's not very often, like, , when you go to a concert and you're like, wow, this is so cool. Everyone's singing the same song, but it's like, Oh, we do that in church every week. And that's something that a lot of people don't experience. So I think that's awesome. But I think probably more so like a few years ago, I I was like really struggling just with life in general.
Zanita Fletcher: And I found it really hard to pray at that time. I found it really hard to read the Bible. I found it really hard to go to church and hear all these testimonies of how God is working people's lives. But music was like, , my saving grace in that period. I had this like playlist of 20 worship songs.
Zanita Fletcher: I just listened to it like on repeat every day. Cause it was like the only thing that [00:04:00] would give me that sense of Connecting with God or lift my spirits in a way. , so I always think about that period because I'm like, man, if I didn't have music, I don't know what would have happened.
Zanita Fletcher: Yeah, so I reckon that's. Probably like where it gets more personal, but.
Jarrod Stackelroth: It's interesting Zanita, cause like in the church, , people have often been quite, passionate about music. So there's been the worship wars, , people saying this kind of music is acceptable and this kind isn't. And often your church attendance or which church people go to might be defined purely on the music choices because this church plays more, more music.
Jarrod Stackelroth: upbeat style music. This church only sings hymns. And it's in some ways a shame that something that is so, encouraging, uplifting, as you say, present through the Bible, the pages of the Psalms, et cetera, basically songs, , , there's a lot of songs, , and, and praise represented in the Bible.
Jarrod Stackelroth: And yet it's something that [00:05:00] can. Polarize us and, , pull us apart when it's meant to bring us together. It's like a communal experience. As you said, singing together, not a lot of communities. In the current Western society, at least share that experience of singing together on the regular, like Christians do, like Christians have maintained that tradition of gathering and singing songs together, but many people don't experience that.
Jarrod Stackelroth: They don't get that. Maybe at a sporting event, they sing the national anthem or something like that. But it's not the same sort of communal tie, that binds everyone knows the songs. Everyone's, , , in the same spirit, in the same attitude, worshipping together. So , I think music really has a power, which is why I think people have been so sensitive about it over the years, because it really does have the power to move and to motivate and to change, , or as you've described,, to encourage you and to keep you connected to the faith, , in difficult times.
Jarrod Stackelroth: , so yeah, we thought today we would share, there's a lot of different types of music. We [00:06:00] thought we'd share some of our songs and some of the things they might mean to us specifically, but we'd love if you're watching along, comment, let us know your songs, what they mean to you. , we'd love to hear what some of those are and what they mean , and share some of those thoughts as well.
Jarrod Stackelroth: , Zenita, do you want to go first? , do you want to share something with us and just give us a window into something that you're listening to, you're enjoying?
Zanita Fletcher: Yeah, so we kind of, , had a bit of a structure when we were thinking about this. We decided we'd think of like our favorite hymn, our favorite Christmas song, and then two other random songs.
Zanita Fletcher: , so I'll start with the hymn because, yeah, let's just start there. But, , I was kind of tossing on turning on two of these. The first one was, , this is my father's world. , which I think is just an awesome song, but the second one that I think I'm going to talk about is it's just like, and I actually wasn't sure if this was a hymn.
Zanita Fletcher: I had to Google what defines him, but it's, I love you, Lord, which was only written like 50 years ago or so. I[00:07:00]
Jarrod Stackelroth: think so. I love you, Lord. And I lift my voice
Zanita Fletcher: really simple. Yeah, yeah, it's really simple, really short, really sweet, but I feel like it's quite relatable. So , the lady who wrote it, she, , she was going through a bit of a difficult period in her life. She was pretty hopeless, quite depressed, and I feel like her story is relatable because, , many people have found themselves in this situation where they don't have a lot of money, they don't have a lot of friends, they're just , working to make ends meet, and that's kind of like, her story, and she was just , really desiring to spend more time with God, but felt so drained and didn't know what to do.
Zanita Fletcher: like what to offer him that would be of any like worth kind of thing because she's just like trying to get by and she was trying to get her baby to sleep one day and these words just came out of her mouth without her even really trying and it was just like this like anthem that got her through this like difficult period and i feel like when i sing it or like when i hear it's like one of those songs that i don't just want to sing lightly like it's It feels [00:08:00] like really, I guess it's like, anytime that you say, I love you, you don't just want to throw it around.
Zanita Fletcher: Like you really want to say it and like really mean it. You don't just want to flippantly be saying it to everyone or saying it when it's not like thought about. , and so I guess it's just one of those songs that like, I, it makes me like stop and think, and it makes me like be careful of what I say.
Zanita Fletcher: And it like, just reminds me that , even just the act of me, , coming and singing this eight line song. That is really simple and isn't anything like hugely profound is like still Like a gift to the ear of the lord like he still really loves that and that's like something that he takes delight in And so yeah, That's my favorite hymn.
Jarrod Stackelroth: Awesome. I love it. My favorite hymn. , it's hard to choose Zenita. Growing up, we used to sing a lot of hymns in my church and we would sing modern choruses as well, but, , there were particular favorites. There were probably a handful, five or six that we sang. a lot because they were my [00:09:00] favorites or, , my dad's favorites.
Jarrod Stackelroth: He would often lead , the worship at church. , mom would often have to play. So she would pick songs that, we, we had some input there. We would encourage her to choose certain songs. So it's actually really hard to narrow down, but my favorite hymn in recent years, , is until then, 632 in the hymn book, the SDA hymn book.
Jarrod Stackelroth: And I just love it as a writer. It's got a certain poetry about it, just the visuals, the images, my heart singing as I pause to remember a heartache here is but a stepping stone. It's just like very poetic and it lifts in the chorus and probably one of my favorite memories of the song because I do love it.
Jarrod Stackelroth: It's fairly short and it's, , I enjoy singing it. But when we would do the lockdowns, we had a. A daughter at that time. We had a baby just when COVID lockdown started. , and the only way we could get Arwen to sleep was [00:10:00] in the carrier. So I'd strap her to my front. I put her in and often I would find myself singing to her just to calm her down, , to walk around the balcony, sing some songs or walk around the house in the dark, sing some songs.
Jarrod Stackelroth: And it would often help her to sleep. And there were a couple of songs I had on repeat just cause I knew most of the lyrics and it was not awkward, like those bits you don't know and whatnot. But almost without fail, I could sing two or three different songs and I would sing that song and she would go to sleep.
Jarrod Stackelroth: Every time I sang it and I was just like, wow, this song has a lot of power. So, I would time it. I would stagger it. Like I'll sing certain songs and then I'll sing that song because it has really this hope for me. It's about looking to the future and no matter how difficult life can get here, like we look to, we look ahead and it's just this until then, , if we can just hold on.
Jarrod Stackelroth: If we can just get through what's happening now, we have this amazing, thing waiting for us. You know, [00:11:00] my eyes will behold that city, , on the day that God calls me home. It's just, it's just a really nice, fairly simple song that I've always really liked, but especially in recent years since COVID, it's really meant a lot to, to myself , and hopefully my kids one day I can remind them, Hey, I used to sing this to you to get you to sleep.
Jarrod Stackelroth: You know, you used to really like this song. So yeah,
Zanita Fletcher: so good. Yeah, I feel like we all had those songs. Our parents would use that would just work But I think it it , I guess it kind of ties with my next song which is more of a modern contemporary song But it's also called , it's called home by Jeremy Riddle and it's I guess about this idea that we are Constantly like searching for things to feel this sense of like home.
Zanita Fletcher: Like we're constantly searching for safety. We're constantly searching for love. And oftentimes we'd look for these things in things that don't satisfy and disappoint us. And so as this song is just the reminder that , Not only is God, , preparing a home for us, but a lot of the things that we are, I [00:12:00] guess, seeking for in that, , can be found in him.
Zanita Fletcher: And so it's just like a reminder to,, turn back to that. And, it's like, I guess it's like a hopeful song of like, yeah, we have another home and like, we can find these things in him. .
Jarrod Stackelroth: Yeah, that hope, like I think it's a particularly Adventist thing. A lot of my favorite songs and hymns growing up, especially had that hopeful element.
Jarrod Stackelroth: I've been singing the role is called up yonder to my kids recently, and I've started picking up the chorus cause it's quite lively. It's upbeat. So it's fun to sing along. And my kids, they're four and almost two and they're singing along the, oh, yeah. I think my daughter was saying the other day, , it was almost like walls instead of role.
Jarrod Stackelroth: She was saying when the walls is called up yonder, but it's like, they're knowing the tune. They're knowing the words already. And they having , that sort of Adventist hope, you know, the classic, Oh, it's left my mind. What's the song we all sing? The very Adventist. Oh, my hope is built on nothing less.
Jarrod Stackelroth: You know? [00:13:00]
Zanita Fletcher: Uh, yeah. Yeah.
Jarrod Stackelroth: Cause it's, they're quite popular in our community. These hope filled looking forward to the kingdom. But I guess, , at the same time, while I love the songs that talk about the hope that we have and the future coming, , couple of the worship songs that I'm really getting a lot out of at the moment, it's because of the lyrics and they really speak to things that are.
Jarrod Stackelroth: now. , so it's not just about all the singing about the sweet by and by, you know, thinking about the future. It's about now. And, , one of those songs is called, made for more. And the other one is called the adoption song by Brandon Lake. Brandon Lake's quite popular at the moment. He's making a lot of worship music, but I find some of the lyrics in his songs just hit me.
Jarrod Stackelroth: Like you're listening to the song and , the words come out, the adoption song starts like this, I'll just share this lyric with you. I renounce the lie [00:14:00] that I don't measure up. I renounce the lie that I'm unworthy of your love. And when shame comes knocking and fear starts talking, I will lift my hands in your presence.
Jarrod Stackelroth: You remind me of who I am. And then the chorus starts. I am adopted. I am beloved. It's my inheritance. I'm a child of God. And I don't know about you Zanita, but , I've wrestled a lot with my own sort of that fear of inadequacy, the fear of rejection. Like I don't actually measure up. I don't mean enough.
Jarrod Stackelroth: And I have this rational logical side that tells me, I know God loves me. He made me, he values me. Other people value me. I have good family. I have good friends. Some of these are irrational thoughts. They're lies. that the devil uses to oppress us or to confuse us and push us down. , and I just love that song, those lyrics in particular speak to the now, and they speak to [00:15:00] my struggle sometimes, you know, actually understanding my own self worth in God's eyes.
Jarrod Stackelroth: And so just the con like the depth of those lyrics, you know, , there was a time some years ago, there used to be a lot of cynicism. , And I grew up more conservative. So it was like, hymns are great because they have depth of meaning and they have depth of lyrics and modern worship songs are just repetitive.
Jarrod Stackelroth: You sing the bridge 16 times, you know, it's just to put you in a trance. The beat and the trance is just to hypnotize you. And the devil will steal your soul sort of thing. We heard all this sort of stuff growing up, but. And I think there was a patch and there are some worship songs, modern worship songs and even hymns that have that repetitive function, that call and response sort of thing.
Jarrod Stackelroth: But some of the modern worship songs I find that are coming out at the moment are really have a depth of thought and lyric behind them that really [00:16:00] speak to our current experience and really speak to the things that we wrestle with as human beings. And. And it's almost like when you're singing those songs, singing along or listening to those songs, it's really encouraging that they remind you of your value, that they, , speak to issues that you might be struggling with wrestling with right now, and that they give you that hope into that space.
Jarrod Stackelroth: And I really, I do think I've seen a shift in that to become. Much more meaningful and much deeper. They're modern day hymns. , sometime in the future, 10, 15 years, 20 years down the track, we might be seeing some of these lyrics and , realizing that these are the hymns of our time, that have grown and developed in that space.
Zanita Fletcher: I think a lot of the songs that I think a lot of the songs that I were on my like playlist that I was talking about or a lot of the songs that I've resonated with when I'm struggling actually also speak about like the doubt and the struggle. It's not just like a full like praise. I love you. Like, you're magnificent.
Zanita Fletcher: You're it's like, you can [00:17:00] hear the struggle in the lyrics and you can relate with it as well. , which I've at least found really helpful. I've also found the songs really helpful that I like. You know, the gospel choir songs are like joyful, they're jubilant, they're fun, like, , but just in different periods, I suppose.
Jarrod Stackelroth: Oh, happy day.
Zanita Fletcher: So good.
Jarrod Stackelroth: I, I think that's important, Zanita, because, the Psalms, I took a worship on this at work the other week about the, , the lament, the lamenting, the idea of lamentation, you know, it's very biblical. It's very filled. These Psalms are inundated with these laments, and often there's praise at the end, or the writer turns the corner and realizes where God is involved.
Jarrod Stackelroth: But sometimes you have to wrestle with life to really appreciate, , how God can raise us above , that level of brokenness , and difficulty and sin that we fall into. So, , Zenita, do you have your next song? Do you [00:18:00] want to share another song with us? Tell us.
Zanita Fletcher: Yes, I think there's a song that I don't actually, to be honest, I don't actually love.
Zanita Fletcher: the musical element of the song. Like it's not one of those ones. And while I was like trying to think of the songs I was using a lot of them, I was like, do I love these for the rhythm and the sound and the melody, or do I really love the words? And so I've tried to pick ones where the lyrics really resonate, but this one is called Same God by elevation worship.
Zanita Fletcher: , and it kind of goes off. , like a few verses, it goes on a verse in Malachi chapter three that says the Lord does not change. And then the classic Hebrews 13 one that says Jesus is the same yesterday, today and forever, which it's basically just , I feel like often we'll look at the Old Testament.
Zanita Fletcher: We'll look at the New Testament. We'll look at the crazy miracles that like Jesus and God performed. And we'll ask ourselves, , why do we not see that these days? Or like, why does it feel like he doesn't answer me? Or like he could perform all those miracles and like, why can't he do it now?
Zanita Fletcher: But. I guess it's just a reminder that, , the God that we believe in today is the same God of the Old Testament and [00:19:00] the New Testament, and he is still, , working miracles and, , he is still with us and, like, he is still as faithful as he ever has been. And so I think it's just, , a really, the lyrics are really powerful in that because, , I think that's probably, , a real common doubt that people have is, , Did he really do that?
Zanita Fletcher: Like, cause why aren't we seeing that today? Yeah. And it's challenging, but I think it's like really uplifting as well. It's like a 11 minute song. It really rides that message home, but, , it's powerful. It's really good. Someone actually sent that to me, because they really resonate with the lyrics too.
Zanita Fletcher: So it's good.
Jarrod Stackelroth: . I love how you can share songs with other people. Like it's a really powerful way. It's , wow, something to this spoke to me, but I I'm thinking of someone who might also really like this. It's so easy these days to just send a link or , send them somewhere that they can watch the song back.
Jarrod Stackelroth: We talked about hymns and worship songs. I'm thinking of choruses and, , the one I want to share, I was wrestling, there's a couple. , I'm. I have little [00:20:00] kids at home now, so we're trying to do family worship and the ones that are interactive and fun. We're trying to teach them songs from our childhood that might, resonate.
Jarrod Stackelroth: , I have decided to follow Jesus as one that
Zanita Fletcher: is
Jarrod Stackelroth: good fun. , I think it's got a really great message like in song, you know, it's simple words, simple thought. But it's like, I'm going to make a commitment. It's almost like Joshua saying me and my house, we're going to stand for the Lord, it's just a song that does that in a encapsulates that.
Jarrod Stackelroth: The other one I like is, , Jesus, save your pilot me. It's just fun. And I like the, I like the Jasper, the Jasper sea, just the, the word picture, like Jasper's never a word, a color description that we get to use in life, but in that old song, there's a little. You know, comes
Zanita Fletcher: out
Jarrod Stackelroth: back to the Jasper Sea. What about you, Anita?
Jarrod Stackelroth: Chorus's action songs, fun songs from growing up that you remember?
Zanita Fletcher: Probably Pharaoh. Pharaoh. [00:21:00] The one that mind . Yeah, Pharaoh. But like . , but yeah, I just remember there being like, when I grew up, there was a massive divide over what we thought the lyrics actually said. Where it was like, whether it was Pharaoh, Pharaoh.
Zanita Fletcher: Oh, baby, or Pharaoh, Pharaoh, obey me. I always oh baby, but apparently it was obey me, which would make a bit of sense. So I don't know what it really is, but if you look up the lyrics on Google, some will say this and some will say this, it's just, you
Jarrod Stackelroth: know, I've always gone with, oh baby, but yeah, now that you say oh
Zanita Fletcher: baby,
Jarrod Stackelroth: either way, it's a fun song.
Jarrod Stackelroth: It's a real song we can get behind.
Zanita Fletcher: Speaking of fun songs. ,
Jarrod Stackelroth: it
Zanita Fletcher: is coming to Christmas, obviously, uh, and the carols are in full swing, which I love, [00:22:00] like December one they're on, but what, what is your favorite carol? What comes to mind when you think of carols?
Jarrod Stackelroth: It's tough. You know, I was thinking about this because I'd like to teach my kids some carols.
Jarrod Stackelroth: We're trying to sing some carols in worship this week. We've just started like singing some carols at home for them to learn. , I always would have said. was my favorite carol. , I just like it. I like uh, in excelsis deo, you know, the, it's just fun to sing. , but I think I've found, I looked it up last night actually to teach my children cause it really, really, It brought back great memories as a kid.
Jarrod Stackelroth: I used to always, , claim it as my favorite when we would do carols in the park with our church and that sort of thing. , it's called Christmas in the scrub. It was written in 1983 and it's an Australian Carol. , And it's like, it, it names all the Australian animals, Christmas in the scrub, let me just Google it.
Jarrod Stackelroth: For a sec to remind myself [00:23:00] of the lyrics. I was teaching my kids last night and they were, they were enthralled. Cause it's like animals. What kid doesn't like animals,? And okay, it's taking a little bit of license. We know Jesus wasn't born in Australia. He wasn't also born on December 25, but just bringing in the Australian, the bush nature of the carols.
Jarrod Stackelroth: You think of the concept of all creation bowing to worship the king, you know? , and so it's like For the birth of God, the wallabies hop. For the birth of God, the cockatoos squawk. For the birth of God, the platypus swims. For the birth of God, the kookaburra laughs. For the birth of God was such exciting news they'd never heard before.
Jarrod Stackelroth: They came from all the land to see this baby in the straw. It's just a not, it's just that idea of, even though we're far removed potentially from the context and, , situation that Jesus was born into. We're still part of that story. We're still part of that [00:24:00] Christmas story. , it universalizes it.
Jarrod Stackelroth: It Australian eyes is a nice one for an Australian Christmas because so much of our stuff talks about cold nights and snow and Christmas carols are all like that sort of cold European
Zanita Fletcher: winter.
Jarrod Stackelroth: Whereas this one, It's the sun, it's the summer, it's the animals, it's the creatures of Australia coming to worship the King.
Jarrod Stackelroth: And, and we can do the same thing, even though we're far removed from his context. So that was always a favorite of mine growing up. , it's a lot of fun.
Zanita Fletcher: I love that. I've written down all these songs. I'm going to go listen to them. Yeah.
Jarrod Stackelroth: Great. Tell us yours, Zanita.
Zanita Fletcher: Oh, , I'm a bit torn. Either. I was going to say joy to the world or Oh, holy night.
Zanita Fletcher: Oh, holy night. , maybe Oh Holy Night is a bit more like interesting because the other one is just an exciting one that we sing at the end of every carols, but Oh Holy Night, , some people know it because Mariah Carey sings it all the time, South Park has sung it, like everyone has sung this song kind of [00:25:00] thing, but, It's actually like a really interesting story behind it.
Zanita Fletcher: Like it was written by a guy, , from France who wasn't really known to be like a good Godly guy. , and he eventually, like after writing this song turned away from the faith and the church banned it from being a song because of like his reputation. But, , despite it being banned, it still spread around.
Zanita Fletcher: I think it was France during like the civil war. And it just became , Something that the people would sing. And there's actually like a story where, , during the Franco Prussian war, , there was a soldier like during fighting and I think it was like around the period of Christmas, one of the soldiers, he stopped fighting.
Zanita Fletcher: It was like a lull in, I guess, the action. He stopped fighting and he just started singing this song, like with everything he had. And then some of the soldiers on the other side also started singing because it was like just going around that time. So they all knew it. So you had these two opposing, , countries fighting with each And now all of a sudden .
Zanita Fletcher: they're singing this like worship song together, which is kind of crazy. , but I guess the song, it's also interesting cause the song [00:26:00] talks about like, That Jesus came to redeem like a lost world. , and it says in the, it says in the lyrics, truly, he taught us to love one another, his law is good and his gospel is peace.
Jarrod Stackelroth: Um,
Zanita Fletcher: and then it says long later world in sin and error pining till he appeared and the soul felt it's worth. So I guess it's like this, like, yeah, I don't know. It's just,, knowing the story and like knowing the words, it's just quite insane. It's one of those things that happens. Happens and. I guess it's the fact that like music can really bring people together and it can remind us of things that we often forget.
Zanita Fletcher: And it can be really like, I know that when I've listened to music in the past, like I've been seeing a song without really thinking, and then I've said a line and I've been like, Oh, whoa, like I'm really not living that. Or I'm really not like living that out. So like, why am I singing it? It can just be a reminder.
Zanita Fletcher: And I feel like. For these people to stop in the middle of a war and sing with each other. Those words is, yeah, really [00:27:00] awesome. That music has the power to do that. , Next time you hear it, you can think of that.
Jarrod Stackelroth: Yeah, I love that story. And I love the two songs that you've shared. They're also definitely on my top, top of the lists for me.
Jarrod Stackelroth: , so I'm glad , you shared that. I do love the lyrics of, , Oh, holy night as well. The weary world rejoices. It's just, it's got such a depth of imagery. We've had a comment. From David Oscar, there are so many songs and it is difficult to choose one because everyone, every song speaks to us in different ways, time and situation.
Jarrod Stackelroth: For example, like the choruses of trust and obey and I need the every hour also good songs. , Yeah. And I think there's something to be said for. The concept of teaching your children, these songs I've just realized since becoming a parent, like I know so many songs that have just almost, I've learned through osmosis, just singing them [00:28:00] together, singing them in different scenarios, singing them with community.
Jarrod Stackelroth: And they're just part of me now. And they come out at times when I need those songs. And so I want my children to have that same experience. So we're trying to teach them as many songs as we can. , and they're, Enjoying that experience. Well, Zanita, we've fast run out of time. That was an interesting conversation.
Jarrod Stackelroth: And, , if you're listening to this later, please add your favorite songs. So we'd love to know, , what you're enjoying. You can do some love song shout outs, but, no, it's been a fascinating conversation and thanks for sharing some of those song titles. , I think I might also go look up some of those things and, Have a listen as well.
Jarrod Stackelroth: So if you're unfamiliar with any of those songs, that's your homework this week, go look them up on YouTube or somewhere and have a listen. I think we've got one episode left after this Zenita, and then it will be breaking for the Christmas and the holiday period. So until then, God bless and
Jarrod Stackelroth: we'll see you next week.